Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends? (repost)

[banana]

From: banana <***@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:08:25 +0100
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Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?

See the following article, dated 16 Sep 2002, by Giovanni di Stefano,
the international lawyer, big business player in Serbia, and owner of
Northampton Town football club:

<http://www.lospettro.it/pagina592.htm>.

The sentence that really sticks in the mind is this one:

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The problem with Blair is that he suffers from “hubris” and the late
[Onassis] who I had the honour of meeting spoke much about that.
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Before forming the opinion that this is completely uninteresting, I'd
advise reading the following article too:

<http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeserb/feuilleton/assasinations/e-
nikcevic.html>

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[Cat Complicated]

Post by banana
Subject: Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:08:25 +0100
***BEGIN***
Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
See the following article, dated 16 Sep 2002, by Giovanni di Stefano,
the international lawyer, big business player in Serbia, and owner of
<http://www.lospettro.it/pagina592.htm>.
***
The problem with Blair is that he suffers from “hubris” and the late
[Onassis] who I had the honour of meeting spoke much about that.
***
Before forming the opinion that this is completely uninteresting, I'd
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeserb/feuilleton/assasinations/e-
nikcevic.html>
***END***

What's going on? Is this the same man who claims to be Dr Harold
Shipman's lawyer? From the Guardian:


MP urges lord chancellor to investigate Shipman 'lawyer'

Rosie Cowan, crime correspondent
Friday January 16, 2004
The Guardian

Harold Shipman's constituency MP last night called on the lord
chancellor to investigate the man who claimed to be the mass murderer's
lawyer.
James Purnell, the Labour MP for Stalybridge and Hyde, has written to
Lord Falconer, urging him to investigate Giovanni Di Stefano, a
convicted conman who is the subject of separate inquiries by the Law
Society and the police.
Mr Di Stefano gave several television interviews on Tuesday, the day
Shipman hanged himself in prison, saying that he had been preparing an
appeal against the serial killer's conviction.
But the Guardian revealed yesterday that Mr Di Stefano is not entitled
to practise law in the UK as he has not provided the authorities with
evidence of his qualifications. Moreover, he was convicted of fraud in
1986, and a 1990 solicitors' disciplinary tribunal hearing barred UK
solicitors from employing him in any capacity without permission from
the Law Society.

[banana]

Post by Cat Complicated

Post by banana
Subject: Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:08:25 +0100
***BEGIN***
Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
See the following article, dated 16 Sep 2002, by Giovanni di Stefano,
the international lawyer, big business player in Serbia, and owner of
<http://www.lospettro.it/pagina592.htm>.
***
The problem with Blair is that he suffers from “hubris” and the late
[Onassis] who I had the honour of meeting spoke much about that.
***
Before forming the opinion that this is completely uninteresting, I'd
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeserb/feuilleton/assasinations/e-
nikcevic.html>
***END***

What's going on? Is this the same man who claims to be Dr Harold

Yes, he is Harold Shipman's lawyer.

Post by Cat Complicated
MP urges lord chancellor to investigate Shipman 'lawyer'
Rosie Cowan, crime correspondent
Friday January 16, 2004
The Guardian
Harold Shipman's constituency MP last night called on the lord
chancellor to investigate the man who claimed to be the mass murderer's
lawyer.
James Purnell, the Labour MP for Stalybridge and Hyde, has written to
Lord Falconer, urging him to investigate Giovanni Di Stefano, a
convicted conman who is the subject of separate inquiries by the Law
Society and the police.
Mr Di Stefano gave several television interviews on Tuesday, the day
Shipman hanged himself in prison, saying that he had been preparing an
appeal against the serial killer's conviction.
But the Guardian revealed yesterday that Mr Di Stefano is not entitled
to practise law in the UK as he has not provided the authorities with
evidence of his qualifications. Moreover, he was convicted of fraud in
1986, and a 1990 solicitors' disciplinary tribunal hearing barred UK
solicitors from employing him in any capacity without permission from
the Law Society.

[Hognoxious]

"banana" <***@REMOVE_THIS.borve.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:RgfuOKAev$***@borve.demon.co.uk...
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Post by banana
Yes, he is Harold Shipman's lawyer.

Not if he's disqualified. He's not anybody's lawyer, although it seems he
might be in need of one.

[banana]

Post by Hognoxious

Post by banana
Yes, he is Harold Shipman's lawyer.

Not if he's disqualified. He's not anybody's lawyer, although it seems he
might be in need of one.

People can hire whomever they want to advise them on the law and prepare
their legal cases.

[Hognoxious]

...

Post by banana
People can hire whomever they want to advise them on the law and prepare
their legal cases.

And? If someone hires me to cut holes in them, does that make me a surgeon?

[banana]

Post by Hognoxious
...

Post by banana
People can hire whomever they want to advise them on the law and prepare
their legal cases.

And? If someone hires me to cut holes in them, does that make me a surgeon?

Yes.

To hell with all this 'professionalist' shit.

[Paul C. Dickie]

Post by Hognoxious
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Post by banana
People can hire whomever they want to advise them on the law and prepare
their legal cases.

And? If someone hires me to cut holes in them, does that make me a surgeon?

It could also mean that you're boring...

[Richard]

Post by banana

Post by Hognoxious

Post by banana
Yes, he is Harold Shipman's lawyer.

Not if he's disqualified. He's not anybody's lawyer, although it seems he
might be in need of one.

People can hire whomever they want to advise them on the law and prepare
their legal cases.

Not entirely true. Certain activities, and in particular the
preparation of Court papers, are reserved to qualified lawyers. (For
the reasons, see the thread about the problems caused to the Court of
Appeal by the influx of hopeless cases brought by litigants in
person.) If someone who is not a qualified lawyer (or working for a
firm of solicitors) undertakes such activities and charges for it, he
commits a criminal offence under the Solicitors Act 1974.

Richard Miller

[0o]

Post by Richard

Post by banana

Post by Hognoxious

Post by banana
Yes, he is Harold Shipman's lawyer.

Not if he's disqualified. He's not anybody's lawyer, although it seems he
might be in need of one.

People can hire whomever they want to advise them on the law and prepare
their legal cases.

Not entirely true. Certain activities, and in particular the
preparation of Court papers, are reserved to qualified lawyers. (For
the reasons, see the thread about the problems caused to the Court of
Appeal by the influx of hopeless cases brought by litigants in
person.) If someone who is not a qualified lawyer (or working for a
firm of solicitors) undertakes such activities and charges for it, he
commits a criminal offence under the Solicitors Act 1974.
Richard Miller

Hi Richard

I'm dont know much about uk law but isn't the litigant allowed to have a
"mckenzie friend" advise him instead of a solicitor? I understand this
person can be anyone without any qualifications, but i reckon you know more
about this than me. Would genuinely like to know more.

Cheers
OO

[0o]

banana call me a lazy, ignorant usless fool but could you explain what this
is about? Im very tired, your explanation would be appreciated.

ps. anyone see the george orwell documentary the other night? was very good.
Im reading big bro again - fucking great (excuse my french)

Post by banana
Subject: Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:08:25 +0100
***BEGIN***
Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
See the following article, dated 16 Sep 2002, by Giovanni di Stefano,
the international lawyer, big business player in Serbia, and owner of
<http://www.lospettro.it/pagina592.htm>.
***
The problem with Blair is that he suffers from "hubris" and the late
[Onassis] who I had the honour of meeting spoke much about that.
***
Before forming the opinion that this is completely uninteresting, I'd
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeserb/feuilleton/assasinations/e-
nikcevic.html>
***END***
--
banana "The thing I hate about you, Rowntree, is the way you
give Coca-Cola to your scum, and your best teddy-bear to
Oxfam, and expect us to lick your frigid fingers for the
rest of your frigid life." (Mick Travis, 'If...', 1968)

[Cat Complicated]

Post by 0o
banana call me a lazy, ignorant usless fool but could you explain what this
is about? Im very tired, your explanation would be appreciated.

I also am interested to know what it's all about - why is Di Stefano
involved with the following people, as well as Dr. Shipman, and what's
the Tony Blair connection?? (Is there one?)

"Last year, Mr Di Stefano was involved in the controversial property
tycoon Nicholas Van Hoogstraten's successful appeal against his
conviction for the manslaughter of a business rival, Mohammed Raja, in
1999. He also claims to represent the M25 road-rage killer Kenneth Noye,
and John "Goldfinger" Palmer, the £35m timeshare trickster." From the
Guardian

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CC

[banana]

Post by Cat Complicated

Post by 0o
banana call me a lazy, ignorant usless fool but could you explain what this
is about? Im very tired, your explanation would be appreciated.

I also am interested to know what it's all about - why is Di Stefano
involved with the following people, as well as Dr. Shipman, and what's
the Tony Blair connection?? (Is there one?)

Well an accountant working for Cherie Blair, namely Andrew Axelsen, was
accused of laundering money through the Jubilee Line extension. It was
reported that he had been charged and that he would be tried - this was
during the Peter Foster affair. Then, all of a sudden, silence.
Disinformationist Gordon Thomas suggested (by raising it and denying it)
that the laundered money belonged to Russian/Israeli mafia boss Semion
Mogilevich, who is a big player in Hungary.

Gordon Thomas's article is at:
http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/pubarchive.php?globeintel+98%3E

See also:
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/alert/mogilevich.htm
http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/Mog.html

Why Thomas wrote this, I don't know.

Meanwhile, culture minister Tessa Jowell's husband David Mills, a
London-based lawyer who has worked for the London end of a very big
Italian law firm, is a long-term business partner of Silvio Berlusconi.
Berlusconi is mafia - one assumes this point doesn't need to be
'explained'. Mills is under investigation for fraud by Italian
magistrates. His sister BTW is Barbara Mills, former Director of Public
Prosecutions. As for Berlusconi, he has been represented in London by
Clare Montgomery, a colleague of Cherie Blair at Matrix chambers.

Meanwhile, Blair family's private fund is run by Martin Paisner of
Berwin Leighton Paisner, the numero uno UK law firm in the
oh-so-squeaky-clean gambling industry. Paisner is the chair of the UK
Board of Directors of the Jerusalem Foundation. This body states its aim
as being "the strengthening, promotion and enhancement of a free, open,
pluralistic and modern society in Jerusalem - the capital of Israel".
Its deeply hypocritical nature is evident; I was unable to identify a
single Arab person involved in the organisation either as a trustee or
indeed in any other role. Pluralism, my arse.

Berwin Leighton Paisner has pocketed large amounts of money from
government contracts, including for work on selling the Millennium Dome
and Wembley Stadium. Nice work if you can get it. I suppose managing the
Blair family's private money must be nice work too.

And, here is a seldom mentioned fact: Tony Blair's brother, Bill Blair,
aka William Blair QC, is the chairperson of the commercial bar, whose
specialisms include international banking.

[Richard]

Post by banana
And, here is a seldom mentioned fact: Tony Blair's brother, Bill Blair,
aka William Blair QC, is the chairperson of the commercial bar, whose
specialisms include international banking.

Do you mean this Bill Blair?

http://www.3vb.com/pgs-members/m_wblair.shtml

I was looking for evidence that he is Tony's brother, and couldn't
find any.

Then I found this reference:

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/gnn/national.nsf/0/E468C9062478C2558025665C00363853?opendocument

which refers to William James Lynton Blair QC.

That is, to say the least, suggestive of a connection. Do you have
anything that confirms it conclusively?

Richard Miller

[0o]

Post by Richard

Post by banana
And, here is a seldom mentioned fact: Tony Blair's brother, Bill Blair,
aka William Blair QC, is the chairperson of the commercial bar, whose
specialisms include international banking.

Do you mean this Bill Blair?
http://www.3vb.com/pgs-members/m_wblair.shtml
I was looking for evidence that he is Tony's brother, and couldn't
find any.

http://www.gnn.gov.uk/gnn/national.nsf/0/E468C9062478C2558025665C00363853?opendocument

Post by Richard
which refers to William James Lynton Blair QC.
That is, to say the least, suggestive of a connection. Do you have
anything that confirms it conclusively?
Richard Miller

Hi Richard

Banana is correct.

The Suisse Security Bank & Trust is owned by Bahamas resident Sheikh Mohamad
Harajchi who has lived in the Bahamas for 22 years.

It seems that Sheik Harajchi was accused of getting money from illegal
sources such as terrorist activities and was compared to Osama bin Laden in
a newspaper called the Torch, and so he decided to sue.

See Sheik Harajchi getting ready to slap FNM with lawsuit [13 February 2002]
at http://btvi.org/n/february02/22/sheik.htm

Anyway, the thing that actually caught my attention in the first place was
that the lead attorney for the Central Bank in this case was the brother of
Prime Minister Tony Blair, William Blair QC. (I always wondered what his
brother did).

"Mr Blair denied that Mr Francis concocted matters in order to find reason
to close the bank. He said not only is that claim untrue, but there is not a
shred of evidence to support it." Harajchi Case Wraps Up In Supreme Court
[bahamasb2b.com - 29 January 2003
http://bahamasb2b.com/news/wmview.php?ArtID=874)
Professor William James Lynton Blair QC is a barrister practising in the
field of banking law, the law of money, and related aspects of commercial
law. He has served as a consultant to the International Monetary Fund and
the World Bank since 1991. He is an editor of the Encyclopaedia of Banking
Law, co-author of Banking and the Financial Services Regulation (2nd ed.
1998), general editor of the leading practitioner work on pleadings, and
editor of various financial law journals. He is a Recorder of the Crown
Court, and a Chairman of the Financial Services and Markets Tribunal.
William Blair QC - London School of Economics .
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/law/whosWho/blair.htm

[0o]

Post by 0o
Professor William James Lynton Blair QC is a barrister practising in the
field of banking law, the law of money, and related aspects of commercial
law. He has served as a consultant to the International Monetary Fund and
the World Bank since 1991. He is an editor of the Encyclopaedia of Banking
Law, co-author of Banking and the Financial Services Regulation (2nd ed.
1998), general editor of the leading practitioner work on pleadings, and
editor of various financial law journals. He is a Recorder of the Crown
Court, and a Chairman of the Financial Services and Markets Tribunal.
William Blair QC - London School of Economics .
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/law/whosWho/blair.htm

^^you could say he keeps himself busy^^

[Fred Henson]

Post by 0o

Post by 0o
Professor William James Lynton Blair QC is a barrister practising in the
field of banking law, the law of money, and related aspects of commercial
law. He has served as a consultant to the International Monetary Fund and
the World Bank since 1991. He is an editor of the Encyclopaedia of Banking
Law, co-author of Banking and the Financial Services Regulation (2nd ed.
1998), general editor of the leading practitioner work on pleadings, and
editor of various financial law journals. He is a Recorder of the Crown
Court, and a Chairman of the Financial Services and Markets Tribunal.
William Blair QC - London School of Economics .
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/law/whosWho/blair.htm

^^you could say he keeps himself busy^^

Anyone on here still active?

[0o]

http://www.hri.org/news/greek/ana/1998/98-03-06.ana.html
Among the other speakers at the conference are Finance Undersecretary Nikos
Christodoulakis, Bank of Greece Governor Lucas Papademos, Alternate Foreign
Minister George Papandreou, former New Democracy minister Stephanos Manos,
and former ND minister Dor a Bakoyianni.

British speakers include William Blair, a professor at the London School of
Economics and brother of Prime Minister Tony Blair.

[0o]

http://www.greekembassy.org/press/newsflash/1998/march/nflash0306c.html
British speakers include William Blair, a professor at the London School of
Economics and brother of Prime Minister Tony Blair.

[banana]

Post by 0o
banana call me a lazy, ignorant usless fool but could you explain what this
is about? Im very tired, your explanation would be appreciated.

The reference to 'hubris' and how Aristotle Onassis spoke about it,
meaning Blair's getting too big for his boots and, er, 'ought to mind
how he goes'?

Post by 0o
ps. anyone see the george orwell documentary the other night? was very good.
Im reading big bro again - fucking great (excuse my french)

I reckon so too. A brilliant book. I read it every couple of years or
so.

Post by 0o

Post by banana
Subject: Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:08:25 +0100
***BEGIN***
Has Tony Blair upset one or two of his mafia friends?
See the following article, dated 16 Sep 2002, by Giovanni di Stefano,
the international lawyer, big business player in Serbia, and owner of
<http://www.lospettro.it/pagina592.htm>.
***
The problem with Blair is that he suffers from "hubris" and the late
[Onassis] who I had the honour of meeting spoke much about that.
***
Before forming the opinion that this is completely uninteresting, I'd
<http://www.xs4all.nl/~freeserb/feuilleton/assasinations/e-
nikcevic.html>
***END***

[0o]

Post by banana
The reference to 'hubris' and how Aristotle Onassis spoke about it,
meaning Blair's getting too big for his boots and, er, 'ought to mind
how he goes'?

Im still not 100% clear on this, things like this need spelled out for me. I
mean like start from beginning and go step like step. I am hoestly
interested,

Post by banana
I reckon so too. A brilliant book. I read it every couple of years or
so.

haha good stuff banana, id expect nothing else! Did u see the doc? It was
very well done, i hope it is repeated.